I enjoyed listening to this, you have a very pleasant clear delivery I only wish I could emulate.
I heard your account about the Dalai Lama and remembered seeing the same incident with him kissing the boy and selling the shots. There was only one little church here that put "In person services" on their billboard. I was surprised at how nearly all so-called spiritual leaders folded and put Science above their own God.
Various observations made it clear that the institutions, personages, office holders, actors with all their talk was marketing of a program that I didn't understand at the time, keeping up an appearance of being what it formerly was believed to be and calibrated for the audience calculated to be watching.
I was insulted by how obvious it was. Dolly Parton selling shots to po' folks. The governor of New York choking down a free burger and fries on camera, the governor here giving a $100 savings bond for students who took the shot. $10 or free donuts gift certificates at the drug store. It was almost as nauseating as the Dalai Lama tongue kissing a little boy.
I thought of it as the fog of war, but Modoke is a much simpler and exact term. I appreciate the illustration of spiritual bypass. I still don't really get it because people who bought into the convidian cult were accusing other people of spiritual bypassing. I settled for just believing my own eyes.
While the hard press psyop was happening in full swing starting in late 2019, I didn't see or hear or read about it directly via media of any sort. Starting in 2016 I stopped all news feeds. No tv, radio, print or social media. It was when I stopped it all that I understood the weight of the assault on our senses, our mind and our spirit. The lightness I felt letting go of the lie-propaganda mechanism was huge.
Instead I used my eyes to see the insanity of the panic and, of course, I overheard people talking. I was at the beginning of what was to become a very intense, deep and ultimately enlightening journey. The convid was a giant kick in the ass to wake me up. I think my media blackout was prepatory to keeping calm while all around me were losing their heads and getting injected. (And I have publicly apologised for ignoring it with the deluded thought that calmness would return 'on own'. How was that possible if the panic was created and being maintained using celebrities and fear as beaters in an organized hunt driving the panicked animals to the kill shot? Perhaps I thought once the government coffers had been emptied into the pharm-mafia? Sigh. Again, I apologize to the world. I had enough knowledge to know better and instead focused on going deeper into self through true yoga.)
My crude description of spiritual by-pass is: for someone suffering from steady anxiety to find a supposedly spiritual 'drug' -- christ, yoga, vegan, meditation, etc.
-- that creates enough healing in the mind-body-spirit to fool that someone to think s/he has been healed. It is a refined form of any other addiction that will, like with other addictions, encourage the addicts deny the addiction until something bottoms them out. For these 'spiritual' addictions, however, the bottom may not be experienced the same way as the alcoholic or foodaholic, etc. And could be far, far off.
And yet the anxiety is still there because they do not have full confidence in self as the expression in flesh of God or spirit or whatever. So when a serious disruption to their world order triggers the quasi-dormant anxiety, the convid for example, they jump to an 'outside' authority to get direction and salvation. Without confidence in their own spiritual truth they won't trust the source of their superficial spiritual connection. Voila, the authority of the religion of scientism(tm).
For example, my spiritual group is under Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. When the first signs were being given that the plandemic wa being set up, Shankar publically told his followers that there is going to be a world wide flu. Don't worry, he said. It isn't very dangerous. Eat healthily, keep up your yoga meditation practice and eat lots of cumin and black pepper and get sunshine for vitamin D. And he was ignored by more than 95% in Canada, including all the leadership and senior teachers.
The spiritual bypass is the delusion that the first sign of ease from anxiety from the whatever spiritual practice had completely fixed the problem of their anxiety. And in that way it is exactly like situation with the teen who discovers that alcohol 'fixed' the problem of shyness and fear.
I guess I was thinking of a couple of spiritual influencer types who get a big following on you tube as examples during the convid, Rick Archer Buddha at the Gas Pump did not interview any guests who were not on board with the program and openly attacked those who were not buying in. Jeffrey Mishlove "New Thinking Allowed", ironically could not entertain the thought that conformity was not new thinking.
Being cooped up with You Tube gurus wasn't good for me, but I realized that despite degrees and being well spoken, some are abysmally ignorant hypocrites.
The part I don't get about spiritual bypass idea is what exactly is being bypassed?
I understand they are using yoga, alcohol, meditation etc as a drug stand-in which is only a placeholder until the chips are down, they break a leg, go to rehab or something upsets the illusion of safety and peace gained by those things. Then some outside authority is latched onto in its place as the lifebuoy. It looks to me like there is no there there.
You understand because you left your life as it was in Canada because you would not submit, no matter what the cost. That is an inner authority that says, "No".
It doesn't need to explain, won't argue.
The churchmen, professionals, gov employees, low level power brokers, business people etc. that did as told and kept doing it no matter how stupid it was or how self defeating or how mean and inhuman didn't have that inner compass to point them or it was so weak they could override it; make up stories and believe that they had no choice.
There was no spirit to bypass. Nothing there. I suspect that is also the case with the yoga/meditation/guru people.
yes, the intellectual spiritual gurus. a big big problem.
have you 'discovered' jesse lee peterson. a youtube 'anti-' christian guru. he is very critical of people who rely on the bible from the mind. if christ is not felt in the body then the mind is the devil using the bible to deceive. he is very interesting and fun to watch.
and human. he 100% does not believe in the various marxist victim narratives: racism does not exist, feminism is evil.
and yet, the one victim narrative he hasn't pierced is the zionist/jewish one that has successfuly used its victimhood to moralistically rationalise horrific acts and the current slaughter of women and children as a necessary good. hmmm.
The first impression of this 'Peterson' sort of like the other one, is the kinship in not believing in something. I don't believe in 'public health' or 'global climate' or 'immune system', but judging the bible people for working with an imposed limit is kicking them because their wings are bound and demanding that they fly. Has he ever changed his perspective? Realized something he doesn't already know?
He excoriates intellectual bible interpretation and feminism and disbelieves victim stories with one exception? The BS meter is in the red. I haven't listened to him at all yet, but if those two things are so, and he is putting himself out there as a thinker, speaker, influencer I question the scope of his sincerity and his claim of feeling christ in the body.
When an honest man discovers he is mistaken, he will either cease to be mistaken or cease to be honest. It's that taking the beam out of your own eye thing we hear about.
i've really been engaged by our extended comment thread. two thoughts have come up.
1) i would like to post them as a substack, perhaps with some editing. and with your approval. would this be okay with you?
2) would you be interested in doing a video podcast? i'm looking to begin that and i see it as a conversation more than an 'interview'. if that interests you, please let me kno.
Nothing that I write or say is definite, perfected or otherwise trustworthy. I write comments because it gets me out of the mental ghetto and gives the brain some exercise in the prison yard. It isn't really intended for anything more than a chat with folk interested in some of the same subjects.
The phrase "some editing" is concerning because even with being too wordy, I try to put down what I mean at the time given the perspective I have at the time and the time I have at the time. I guess it would be ok anyway if you'd like.
One of my severe handicaps is that I take too long to think about things, before I can compose a coherent reply, like a lady trying on too many dresses and settling on the best color, least provocative one.
A consequence of existing in mental ghettos and prison yards is that substack commentary is like trying on the dresses in a closet.
That is probably why the influencers have to go to influencer schools to get their performance enhanced and standardized.
the spiritual by-pass is to remove from our personal responsibility for living so as to reduce suffering in the world — first ours and from that our various communities — and defer it to a moral authority. that is what is by-passed: to be 100% responsible for our experience of life, for our removing blame and complain, even of bad parents and bad people doing bad things. we are responsible for our responses, when we are adults, to events. create trauma drama victim narratives that completely disempowers us. and we are responsible, as adults, for removing trauma narratives that began with hurtful events when we were infants, children and too young to have full personal responsibility.
our anxieties arise from feeling a victim of life in some way.
as to 'morals' and 'morality' i'm putting together an essay arguing that all morals and moral authorities are used by humans as how we can authorise the use of rationality to remove compassion.
You shall know them by their fruits
I enjoyed listening to this, you have a very pleasant clear delivery I only wish I could emulate.
I heard your account about the Dalai Lama and remembered seeing the same incident with him kissing the boy and selling the shots. There was only one little church here that put "In person services" on their billboard. I was surprised at how nearly all so-called spiritual leaders folded and put Science above their own God.
Various observations made it clear that the institutions, personages, office holders, actors with all their talk was marketing of a program that I didn't understand at the time, keeping up an appearance of being what it formerly was believed to be and calibrated for the audience calculated to be watching.
I was insulted by how obvious it was. Dolly Parton selling shots to po' folks. The governor of New York choking down a free burger and fries on camera, the governor here giving a $100 savings bond for students who took the shot. $10 or free donuts gift certificates at the drug store. It was almost as nauseating as the Dalai Lama tongue kissing a little boy.
I thought of it as the fog of war, but Modoke is a much simpler and exact term. I appreciate the illustration of spiritual bypass. I still don't really get it because people who bought into the convidian cult were accusing other people of spiritual bypassing. I settled for just believing my own eyes.
Hola, br.
While the hard press psyop was happening in full swing starting in late 2019, I didn't see or hear or read about it directly via media of any sort. Starting in 2016 I stopped all news feeds. No tv, radio, print or social media. It was when I stopped it all that I understood the weight of the assault on our senses, our mind and our spirit. The lightness I felt letting go of the lie-propaganda mechanism was huge.
Instead I used my eyes to see the insanity of the panic and, of course, I overheard people talking. I was at the beginning of what was to become a very intense, deep and ultimately enlightening journey. The convid was a giant kick in the ass to wake me up. I think my media blackout was prepatory to keeping calm while all around me were losing their heads and getting injected. (And I have publicly apologised for ignoring it with the deluded thought that calmness would return 'on own'. How was that possible if the panic was created and being maintained using celebrities and fear as beaters in an organized hunt driving the panicked animals to the kill shot? Perhaps I thought once the government coffers had been emptied into the pharm-mafia? Sigh. Again, I apologize to the world. I had enough knowledge to know better and instead focused on going deeper into self through true yoga.)
My crude description of spiritual by-pass is: for someone suffering from steady anxiety to find a supposedly spiritual 'drug' -- christ, yoga, vegan, meditation, etc.
-- that creates enough healing in the mind-body-spirit to fool that someone to think s/he has been healed. It is a refined form of any other addiction that will, like with other addictions, encourage the addicts deny the addiction until something bottoms them out. For these 'spiritual' addictions, however, the bottom may not be experienced the same way as the alcoholic or foodaholic, etc. And could be far, far off.
And yet the anxiety is still there because they do not have full confidence in self as the expression in flesh of God or spirit or whatever. So when a serious disruption to their world order triggers the quasi-dormant anxiety, the convid for example, they jump to an 'outside' authority to get direction and salvation. Without confidence in their own spiritual truth they won't trust the source of their superficial spiritual connection. Voila, the authority of the religion of scientism(tm).
For example, my spiritual group is under Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. When the first signs were being given that the plandemic wa being set up, Shankar publically told his followers that there is going to be a world wide flu. Don't worry, he said. It isn't very dangerous. Eat healthily, keep up your yoga meditation practice and eat lots of cumin and black pepper and get sunshine for vitamin D. And he was ignored by more than 95% in Canada, including all the leadership and senior teachers.
The spiritual bypass is the delusion that the first sign of ease from anxiety from the whatever spiritual practice had completely fixed the problem of their anxiety. And in that way it is exactly like situation with the teen who discovers that alcohol 'fixed' the problem of shyness and fear.
Yoga or christ or whatever as addictive drug.
Amazing.
I guess I was thinking of a couple of spiritual influencer types who get a big following on you tube as examples during the convid, Rick Archer Buddha at the Gas Pump did not interview any guests who were not on board with the program and openly attacked those who were not buying in. Jeffrey Mishlove "New Thinking Allowed", ironically could not entertain the thought that conformity was not new thinking.
Being cooped up with You Tube gurus wasn't good for me, but I realized that despite degrees and being well spoken, some are abysmally ignorant hypocrites.
The part I don't get about spiritual bypass idea is what exactly is being bypassed?
I understand they are using yoga, alcohol, meditation etc as a drug stand-in which is only a placeholder until the chips are down, they break a leg, go to rehab or something upsets the illusion of safety and peace gained by those things. Then some outside authority is latched onto in its place as the lifebuoy. It looks to me like there is no there there.
You understand because you left your life as it was in Canada because you would not submit, no matter what the cost. That is an inner authority that says, "No".
It doesn't need to explain, won't argue.
The churchmen, professionals, gov employees, low level power brokers, business people etc. that did as told and kept doing it no matter how stupid it was or how self defeating or how mean and inhuman didn't have that inner compass to point them or it was so weak they could override it; make up stories and believe that they had no choice.
There was no spirit to bypass. Nothing there. I suspect that is also the case with the yoga/meditation/guru people.
yes, the intellectual spiritual gurus. a big big problem.
have you 'discovered' jesse lee peterson. a youtube 'anti-' christian guru. he is very critical of people who rely on the bible from the mind. if christ is not felt in the body then the mind is the devil using the bible to deceive. he is very interesting and fun to watch.
and human. he 100% does not believe in the various marxist victim narratives: racism does not exist, feminism is evil.
and yet, the one victim narrative he hasn't pierced is the zionist/jewish one that has successfuly used its victimhood to moralistically rationalise horrific acts and the current slaughter of women and children as a necessary good. hmmm.
The first impression of this 'Peterson' sort of like the other one, is the kinship in not believing in something. I don't believe in 'public health' or 'global climate' or 'immune system', but judging the bible people for working with an imposed limit is kicking them because their wings are bound and demanding that they fly. Has he ever changed his perspective? Realized something he doesn't already know?
He excoriates intellectual bible interpretation and feminism and disbelieves victim stories with one exception? The BS meter is in the red. I haven't listened to him at all yet, but if those two things are so, and he is putting himself out there as a thinker, speaker, influencer I question the scope of his sincerity and his claim of feeling christ in the body.
When an honest man discovers he is mistaken, he will either cease to be mistaken or cease to be honest. It's that taking the beam out of your own eye thing we hear about.
hola, br.
i've really been engaged by our extended comment thread. two thoughts have come up.
1) i would like to post them as a substack, perhaps with some editing. and with your approval. would this be okay with you?
2) would you be interested in doing a video podcast? i'm looking to begin that and i see it as a conversation more than an 'interview'. if that interests you, please let me kno.
Nothing that I write or say is definite, perfected or otherwise trustworthy. I write comments because it gets me out of the mental ghetto and gives the brain some exercise in the prison yard. It isn't really intended for anything more than a chat with folk interested in some of the same subjects.
The phrase "some editing" is concerning because even with being too wordy, I try to put down what I mean at the time given the perspective I have at the time and the time I have at the time. I guess it would be ok anyway if you'd like.
One of my severe handicaps is that I take too long to think about things, before I can compose a coherent reply, like a lady trying on too many dresses and settling on the best color, least provocative one.
A consequence of existing in mental ghettos and prison yards is that substack commentary is like trying on the dresses in a closet.
That is probably why the influencers have to go to influencer schools to get their performance enhanced and standardized.
ah, great point.
the spiritual by-pass is to remove from our personal responsibility for living so as to reduce suffering in the world — first ours and from that our various communities — and defer it to a moral authority. that is what is by-passed: to be 100% responsible for our experience of life, for our removing blame and complain, even of bad parents and bad people doing bad things. we are responsible for our responses, when we are adults, to events. create trauma drama victim narratives that completely disempowers us. and we are responsible, as adults, for removing trauma narratives that began with hurtful events when we were infants, children and too young to have full personal responsibility.
our anxieties arise from feeling a victim of life in some way.
as to 'morals' and 'morality' i'm putting together an essay arguing that all morals and moral authorities are used by humans as how we can authorise the use of rationality to remove compassion.
hasta luego.