Glad I found your writing. Having been practicing Soto Zen for a good time now, even building a Zendo in our garden. Then experiencing the institutions of Zen falling for the c19 Caper. Going full vax mandate. Very disenchanting. So was I idealising "the practice" as they say? Brad Warner was one of the few Zen Priests challenging this collapse into conformity. "Don't know mind". Being one of those treasured orientations for practice. My riff on that is..." Don't know mind, don't know what it don't know". Which leads us to St Noam Chomsky and Naomi Klien. (Currently reading Doppelganger 'doppelspeak' what an annoying book). I guess the house is divided on these betrayals. The nose ring metaphor is less comfortable, it gives some mitigation for those who seemed to turn against "us". Whoever 'we' are. And I have grow up too, my don't know mind don't know what it don't know. I can do pointy finger, nose ring bullshit, myself and complain about so called wise sages falling for the Hoax. And sitting Zazen can only slowly dissolve this. If your lucky enough not to be sitting zazen in an institution captured by a cult. But then again Dogen says zazen is enlightenment. In fact delusion is enlightenment. Damn.....sorry long reflection...thanks John
hola, john and nice to meet you. and i am glad that you find my odd approach and style engaging to you!
i re-read my post to see what you responded to — it has been a while since i wrote it. i enjoyed my own writing! that was nice.
it is very possible you were idealising something, not necessarily zen. that those professing to practice it had well embodied it enough to avoid the convid scam. i wrote about this more extensively in a response i wrote to steve kirsch being puzzled why he couldn't wake up anyone with reasoned arguments and 'facts'. "Steve Kirsch asked 'What are the best ways to red-pill someone?' My answer." https://gduperreault.substack.com/p/thoughts-covid-reset-yogic-and-uncategorised/. that was followed by my answer to a question by another zen adept who was surprised to be locked out of her zen place. "Q: 'I agree that [yogic calmness] is important, how do we account for all the yoga teachers who fly Ukraine flags and require masks in their studios?' A: Yoga as drug." https://gduperreault.substack.com/p/q-i-agree-that-yogic-calmness-is/comments.
i've not heard of warner; although not a surprise as i'm not *really* a zen person. i am more in the process of integrating gautama's principles into my yogic and breath practices following the research of stephen batchelor and michael stone.
"Don't know mind, don't know what it don't know". yes!!! love it. that is one of the reasons i've moved to a body-centric process of acting-knowing. as i describe in my avoiding being jabbed when it was work-mandated despite complete total ignorance about it, i asked my body and it said 'no, don't take it.' and so to the body of my partner. that meant serious financial problems and eventually led us to become covid refugees in mexico.
i have read a review of the doppelganger book and it was very very harsh on the delusion nature of klein's writing. and by chance i met an americano in a mexican bookstore in the section with that book and he highly recommended it. from a bit of talking it was clear he was one of the completely convided hook line and graphene.
"The nose ring metaphor is less comfortable, it gives some mitigation for those who seemed to turn against "us"." i'm not sure i follow you here. do you mean that they pulling our nose ring is actually okay and it is up to us to grow up to being dead ringers? interesting! and yet the question might be to what extent are we in turn holding the string to another's nose ring? and it slides past the question that those holding the strings, the cabal, only have that ability because we gave it to them. and that they themselves are pulled by their own nose rings, be it baal worship, or greed, or hubristic moralism. hmmmm. it then comes around, really, of truly 'no blame no complain', not even about the ring holders regardless of their pernicious perfidy to humanity. wow, that is a challenge of growth!
i have been lucky enough to be outside institutional zen after eschewing it for its antithetical approach to the body as truth. i set informally in a chan (zen) koan group that has little zen structure to it and is very open, despite the leader being an intellectually trained university professor totally asleep and rabidly suffering from trump derangement syndrome. although, it was great to see him recently question his derangement as improper attachment!
enlightenment is a tricky thing! it is not a goal or endpoint, not anything that is to be achieved. and when gotten, it slips away like sand through our fingers. perhaps as my awareness in my body of the concept 'dependence co-arising' deepens i will be aware enough of that interdependence that our self-imposed bumpers of memory and future will fall away and that now that is all will be all that is now. hmmmm.
i really enjoyed your comment! all the best with what is changing. everything changes! peace, respect, love and exuberant joy.
First, I salute you for your candid bravery. I think your Eastern knowledge and practices are to be thanked for it. Your Western upbringing thwarted it.
For these past four essays I had to break away to do a bit of research and pondering. (So, I am a good bit behind.) I read the Bhagavad Gita and I am half way through the Upanishads (Eknath Easwaran, translator for both). This brought insight and understanding to what you have been writing. The concept of the all-pervading Self is easy to grasp, but reaching that level of awareness isn’t.
As an understanding example, where you write: “What has happened with my physical practice much more so than from my reading habits is that fear has fallen from me and remarkable as that is even more remarkable has been that my curiosity and openness to the absolute mystery of what is has expanded. And with that expansion the fear-based need to know the truth has fallen away. This IS It has become enough because what it is is joyful curiosity about what this is.” (Just This Is It. What Is This? Pt 1)
In the light of my readings this makes much more sense to me.
Your assessment of Chomsky was very good. I have always had an animal’s dislike of him since the 80’s. I first met him in Bob Gaccione’s OMNI magazine. With the many times he was on, or referenced to on Nation Public Radio (which I finally stopped tuning-in to in the Clinton years), I developed that instinct that animals have that tell them “this guy is up to no good”.
Now that you have written down your Chomsky Paradox and The Chomsky Affect they are copyrighted and future commentators should properly cite them. They are most relevant.
Oh, but the jewel in the crown was the Martin Luther quote and your explanation: “I suspect that that was what Luther was (ineffectively) articulating in his cautionary rant: reason is a delusion-trap disguised as the creator of truth using the language of being reasonable.” This is a keeper.
Hello Carl! OMG, you have really touched my heart with your heartfelt comment - to dig into the Bhagavad-Gita and the Upanishads! Wow! So great and it brings real joy to me that you are seeing how valuable they are to assist our understanding that what we think we understand is at best limited and at worst, delusion.
And I confess to having been surprised by my 'creation' of 'The Chomsky Paradox' and 'The Chomsky Affect' and that I think they are sharp and on point. Now to write a bestseller and see them get into the conspiracy loco's vernacular! With your help that is sure to happen, no question!
That Luther quotation, which I came across in the 90s, I think, has resonated with me from the first time I read it. Yes, and it really does point to the likes of Peterson and Chomsky, et al, who have in fact such great powers of reason that they trap themselves. It is something like our convidiana that exposes that failure most clearly. You may really enjoy John Ralston Saul's books. (And I wonder if he was caught by the reason's delusion-trap! I haven't seen his name come up in either direction. Hmmmm. Maybe I'll look that up.) Anyway, really powerful books are 'Voltaire's Bastards: The Dictatorship of Reason in the West' and 'The Unconscious Civilisation.' And a fun and important read, for me, was his 'dictionary': 'The Doubter's Companion: A Dictionary of Aggressive Common Sense.' Your sensibility and humour I feel in your writing will likely find resonance with any of those books.
Great to have you here, Carl, on our planet moving forward into some kind of ultimately great transformation. And in the beginning of that transformation, when things are tough! LoL! So, when things get tough, the tough get going. Or, in my case, I grab the keyboard after some time doing yoga and sitting in meditation! LOL! Life, whatever this is, really does have a wicked sense of humour.
Thanks for the reading recommendations. My reading list is now at least a hundred years long; God help me. But of course, most of it will be irrelevant in a hundred years. Maybe by that time humanity will be humane.
LOL! Yes. In my early 30s I had a shocking realisation — I would die before I had read the books I wanted to read.
After that I focused more carefully on my choices and really began to trust my body-awareness of the 'important'-for-me books to read. It has helped a lot.
So, with those recommendations, allow synchronicity to guide you to or away from them. I'm now reading only about 6 books a year! And yet, they are powerful ones that are taking time to digest.
It would be great if humanity will actually be humane in a hundred years. I'm not actually super optimistic that 100 years is long enough. I'll be looking, in a future essay, at how the so-called 'medical freedom movement' and those who are linked to it with an abhorrence of the tyrannical structures in place and being expanded in convidiana are actually mostly stuck in the Chomsky Affect! And, if that is correct, then the 'freedom' structures they are looking to build will be authoritarian and that will take some time to self-destruct.
The Hunger Games portrayed that so SO shockingly well, when Catnis killed the revolutionary leader and not the old school tyrant! Wow, such wisdom in that portrayal: Catnis recognised the Chomsky Affect and shot it with an arrow.
hi my name is Bradley Brooks are you the person i saw on NEOPHATE s substack and said you have been studying Carl Young for 40 years ------ i love Carl Young and live by his book (psyhic and smybol) i must have subsrcibe to you though NEOPHATE --------OH and as for your writing on Chompsky (makeing into heros poeple who are powerful critics of authortarian power who actually believe in the same power structure they are critizing) WOW !!!!!!!!! did you write this or get it from some where this isbrilliant thinking you are extremly smart and on my mental range etc. etc. to say the least please contact me any time my email is mznhiz@yahoo.com i could really and desparately ues some deep mental stimulation and i mean deep my main enjoyment is anything related to arch psychology are anything that involves personal deducing thinking etc.-------- i just found out about this evolution psychologist william von hippel from ( Rob thanks rob below n the comment what a mind joy
While he was telling us to clean our room, he got deep into benzo drug issues.
He snuck off to Russia to get treatment, probably to hide his demon.
I also found it ridiculous that he did a softball interview with Bibi N.
As a result, many of his followers criticized him. In return he claimed that criticizing anonymously is cowardice and people should identify themselves.
Yeah umm no, Jordan, did you not listen to yourself? Authoritarians also can use that information!
He also sadly told people to just get the damned shot. Apparently, he didn't see that as authoritarian either.
Another one you can add to the pile is Chris Hedges, who always hid from questioning the 911 official story. Recently, as he is promoting the green party candidate, Cornell West (who also went along with the jabs), he had the audacity to criticize rfk Jr with plain garbage.
These people were molded by academia, even if they started blue collar (Peterson).
"The evolutionary psychologist William von Hippel found that humans use large parts of thinking power to navigate social world rather than perform independent analysis and decision making. For most people it is the mechanism that, in case of doubt, will prevent one from thinking what is right if, in return, it endangers one’s social status. This phenomenon occurs more strongly the higher a person’s social status. Another factor is that the more educated and more theoretically intelligent a person is, the more their brain is adept at selling them the biggest nonsense as a reasonable idea, as long as it elevates their social status. The upper educated class tends to be more inclined than ordinary people to chase some intellectual boondoggle. "
I am sorry for the delayed response. I had great intentions at the time, and I became busy and lost track of this great comment. (Thank you Carl, below, who brought it back to my attention.)
Thank you for the note about Chris Hedges and Cornell West! LOL! Sorry, it may be inappropriate to laugh at this. And yet... the blindness to the obvious, and the level of it within the 'smart' people is really laughable. I recently watched the X documentary showing the total asininity of Stephen Colbert, again. And yet, these people sleep well, I imagine, as did the people who organised and participated in the killing of the children that initiated the eugenicide in Germany.
Thank you for reading, and bringing great comments. The quotation from Latypova is great. And aligns with my observation, as I learned at university, with the War of the World's broadcast in New York - it was the most indoctrinated that panicked and fled a burning city with no signs of smoke or destruction. Like the deadliness of a 'virus' with no real evidence of death!
Glad I found your writing. Having been practicing Soto Zen for a good time now, even building a Zendo in our garden. Then experiencing the institutions of Zen falling for the c19 Caper. Going full vax mandate. Very disenchanting. So was I idealising "the practice" as they say? Brad Warner was one of the few Zen Priests challenging this collapse into conformity. "Don't know mind". Being one of those treasured orientations for practice. My riff on that is..." Don't know mind, don't know what it don't know". Which leads us to St Noam Chomsky and Naomi Klien. (Currently reading Doppelganger 'doppelspeak' what an annoying book). I guess the house is divided on these betrayals. The nose ring metaphor is less comfortable, it gives some mitigation for those who seemed to turn against "us". Whoever 'we' are. And I have grow up too, my don't know mind don't know what it don't know. I can do pointy finger, nose ring bullshit, myself and complain about so called wise sages falling for the Hoax. And sitting Zazen can only slowly dissolve this. If your lucky enough not to be sitting zazen in an institution captured by a cult. But then again Dogen says zazen is enlightenment. In fact delusion is enlightenment. Damn.....sorry long reflection...thanks John
hola, john and nice to meet you. and i am glad that you find my odd approach and style engaging to you!
i re-read my post to see what you responded to — it has been a while since i wrote it. i enjoyed my own writing! that was nice.
it is very possible you were idealising something, not necessarily zen. that those professing to practice it had well embodied it enough to avoid the convid scam. i wrote about this more extensively in a response i wrote to steve kirsch being puzzled why he couldn't wake up anyone with reasoned arguments and 'facts'. "Steve Kirsch asked 'What are the best ways to red-pill someone?' My answer." https://gduperreault.substack.com/p/thoughts-covid-reset-yogic-and-uncategorised/. that was followed by my answer to a question by another zen adept who was surprised to be locked out of her zen place. "Q: 'I agree that [yogic calmness] is important, how do we account for all the yoga teachers who fly Ukraine flags and require masks in their studios?' A: Yoga as drug." https://gduperreault.substack.com/p/q-i-agree-that-yogic-calmness-is/comments.
i've not heard of warner; although not a surprise as i'm not *really* a zen person. i am more in the process of integrating gautama's principles into my yogic and breath practices following the research of stephen batchelor and michael stone.
"Don't know mind, don't know what it don't know". yes!!! love it. that is one of the reasons i've moved to a body-centric process of acting-knowing. as i describe in my avoiding being jabbed when it was work-mandated despite complete total ignorance about it, i asked my body and it said 'no, don't take it.' and so to the body of my partner. that meant serious financial problems and eventually led us to become covid refugees in mexico.
i have read a review of the doppelganger book and it was very very harsh on the delusion nature of klein's writing. and by chance i met an americano in a mexican bookstore in the section with that book and he highly recommended it. from a bit of talking it was clear he was one of the completely convided hook line and graphene.
"The nose ring metaphor is less comfortable, it gives some mitigation for those who seemed to turn against "us"." i'm not sure i follow you here. do you mean that they pulling our nose ring is actually okay and it is up to us to grow up to being dead ringers? interesting! and yet the question might be to what extent are we in turn holding the string to another's nose ring? and it slides past the question that those holding the strings, the cabal, only have that ability because we gave it to them. and that they themselves are pulled by their own nose rings, be it baal worship, or greed, or hubristic moralism. hmmmm. it then comes around, really, of truly 'no blame no complain', not even about the ring holders regardless of their pernicious perfidy to humanity. wow, that is a challenge of growth!
i have been lucky enough to be outside institutional zen after eschewing it for its antithetical approach to the body as truth. i set informally in a chan (zen) koan group that has little zen structure to it and is very open, despite the leader being an intellectually trained university professor totally asleep and rabidly suffering from trump derangement syndrome. although, it was great to see him recently question his derangement as improper attachment!
enlightenment is a tricky thing! it is not a goal or endpoint, not anything that is to be achieved. and when gotten, it slips away like sand through our fingers. perhaps as my awareness in my body of the concept 'dependence co-arising' deepens i will be aware enough of that interdependence that our self-imposed bumpers of memory and future will fall away and that now that is all will be all that is now. hmmmm.
i really enjoyed your comment! all the best with what is changing. everything changes! peace, respect, love and exuberant joy.
First, I salute you for your candid bravery. I think your Eastern knowledge and practices are to be thanked for it. Your Western upbringing thwarted it.
For these past four essays I had to break away to do a bit of research and pondering. (So, I am a good bit behind.) I read the Bhagavad Gita and I am half way through the Upanishads (Eknath Easwaran, translator for both). This brought insight and understanding to what you have been writing. The concept of the all-pervading Self is easy to grasp, but reaching that level of awareness isn’t.
As an understanding example, where you write: “What has happened with my physical practice much more so than from my reading habits is that fear has fallen from me and remarkable as that is even more remarkable has been that my curiosity and openness to the absolute mystery of what is has expanded. And with that expansion the fear-based need to know the truth has fallen away. This IS It has become enough because what it is is joyful curiosity about what this is.” (Just This Is It. What Is This? Pt 1)
In the light of my readings this makes much more sense to me.
Your assessment of Chomsky was very good. I have always had an animal’s dislike of him since the 80’s. I first met him in Bob Gaccione’s OMNI magazine. With the many times he was on, or referenced to on Nation Public Radio (which I finally stopped tuning-in to in the Clinton years), I developed that instinct that animals have that tell them “this guy is up to no good”.
Now that you have written down your Chomsky Paradox and The Chomsky Affect they are copyrighted and future commentators should properly cite them. They are most relevant.
Oh, but the jewel in the crown was the Martin Luther quote and your explanation: “I suspect that that was what Luther was (ineffectively) articulating in his cautionary rant: reason is a delusion-trap disguised as the creator of truth using the language of being reasonable.” This is a keeper.
Good work, Guy.
Hello Carl! OMG, you have really touched my heart with your heartfelt comment - to dig into the Bhagavad-Gita and the Upanishads! Wow! So great and it brings real joy to me that you are seeing how valuable they are to assist our understanding that what we think we understand is at best limited and at worst, delusion.
And I confess to having been surprised by my 'creation' of 'The Chomsky Paradox' and 'The Chomsky Affect' and that I think they are sharp and on point. Now to write a bestseller and see them get into the conspiracy loco's vernacular! With your help that is sure to happen, no question!
That Luther quotation, which I came across in the 90s, I think, has resonated with me from the first time I read it. Yes, and it really does point to the likes of Peterson and Chomsky, et al, who have in fact such great powers of reason that they trap themselves. It is something like our convidiana that exposes that failure most clearly. You may really enjoy John Ralston Saul's books. (And I wonder if he was caught by the reason's delusion-trap! I haven't seen his name come up in either direction. Hmmmm. Maybe I'll look that up.) Anyway, really powerful books are 'Voltaire's Bastards: The Dictatorship of Reason in the West' and 'The Unconscious Civilisation.' And a fun and important read, for me, was his 'dictionary': 'The Doubter's Companion: A Dictionary of Aggressive Common Sense.' Your sensibility and humour I feel in your writing will likely find resonance with any of those books.
Great to have you here, Carl, on our planet moving forward into some kind of ultimately great transformation. And in the beginning of that transformation, when things are tough! LoL! So, when things get tough, the tough get going. Or, in my case, I grab the keyboard after some time doing yoga and sitting in meditation! LOL! Life, whatever this is, really does have a wicked sense of humour.
🙏❤️🧘🏿♀️🙌🧘🏿♀️❤️🙏
Thanks for the reading recommendations. My reading list is now at least a hundred years long; God help me. But of course, most of it will be irrelevant in a hundred years. Maybe by that time humanity will be humane.
LOL! Yes. In my early 30s I had a shocking realisation — I would die before I had read the books I wanted to read.
After that I focused more carefully on my choices and really began to trust my body-awareness of the 'important'-for-me books to read. It has helped a lot.
So, with those recommendations, allow synchronicity to guide you to or away from them. I'm now reading only about 6 books a year! And yet, they are powerful ones that are taking time to digest.
It would be great if humanity will actually be humane in a hundred years. I'm not actually super optimistic that 100 years is long enough. I'll be looking, in a future essay, at how the so-called 'medical freedom movement' and those who are linked to it with an abhorrence of the tyrannical structures in place and being expanded in convidiana are actually mostly stuck in the Chomsky Affect! And, if that is correct, then the 'freedom' structures they are looking to build will be authoritarian and that will take some time to self-destruct.
The Hunger Games portrayed that so SO shockingly well, when Catnis killed the revolutionary leader and not the old school tyrant! Wow, such wisdom in that portrayal: Catnis recognised the Chomsky Affect and shot it with an arrow.
All the best and happy reading!
When Chomsky was interviewed by Andrew Marr there were a few red flags, I certainly noted them even if unconsciously.
Right now I'm wondering "if you believed something different, you wouldn't be sitting here" applies to Chomsky as well.
https://youtu.be/pV85306K64w?t=182
Hola, Richard.
Of course!
Lol. Love your rhetorical question.
Great clip, too. Gracias.
hi my name is Bradley Brooks are you the person i saw on NEOPHATE s substack and said you have been studying Carl Young for 40 years ------ i love Carl Young and live by his book (psyhic and smybol) i must have subsrcibe to you though NEOPHATE --------OH and as for your writing on Chompsky (makeing into heros poeple who are powerful critics of authortarian power who actually believe in the same power structure they are critizing) WOW !!!!!!!!! did you write this or get it from some where this isbrilliant thinking you are extremly smart and on my mental range etc. etc. to say the least please contact me any time my email is mznhiz@yahoo.com i could really and desparately ues some deep mental stimulation and i mean deep my main enjoyment is anything related to arch psychology are anything that involves personal deducing thinking etc.-------- i just found out about this evolution psychologist william von hippel from ( Rob thanks rob below n the comment what a mind joy
Hello, Bradley.
I apologise for the delayed reply to this. I became busy and lost track of this thread.
I am so glad you have found my efforts so worth while! (And I've seen your more recent comments on current writing.)
I am very happy that you are finding this stimulating! That is to a great extent why I am writing what I am and how I put the words together.
You are kind! And yes, I wrote that.
And von Hippel looks very intereting and I also thank Rob for that introduction.
All the best.
I'm glad you also brought up Jordan Peterson.
While he was telling us to clean our room, he got deep into benzo drug issues.
He snuck off to Russia to get treatment, probably to hide his demon.
I also found it ridiculous that he did a softball interview with Bibi N.
As a result, many of his followers criticized him. In return he claimed that criticizing anonymously is cowardice and people should identify themselves.
Yeah umm no, Jordan, did you not listen to yourself? Authoritarians also can use that information!
He also sadly told people to just get the damned shot. Apparently, he didn't see that as authoritarian either.
Another one you can add to the pile is Chris Hedges, who always hid from questioning the 911 official story. Recently, as he is promoting the green party candidate, Cornell West (who also went along with the jabs), he had the audacity to criticize rfk Jr with plain garbage.
These people were molded by academia, even if they started blue collar (Peterson).
"The evolutionary psychologist William von Hippel found that humans use large parts of thinking power to navigate social world rather than perform independent analysis and decision making. For most people it is the mechanism that, in case of doubt, will prevent one from thinking what is right if, in return, it endangers one’s social status. This phenomenon occurs more strongly the higher a person’s social status. Another factor is that the more educated and more theoretically intelligent a person is, the more their brain is adept at selling them the biggest nonsense as a reasonable idea, as long as it elevates their social status. The upper educated class tends to be more inclined than ordinary people to chase some intellectual boondoggle. "
-Sasha Latypova
Hola, Rob (c137).
I am sorry for the delayed response. I had great intentions at the time, and I became busy and lost track of this great comment. (Thank you Carl, below, who brought it back to my attention.)
Thank you for the note about Chris Hedges and Cornell West! LOL! Sorry, it may be inappropriate to laugh at this. And yet... the blindness to the obvious, and the level of it within the 'smart' people is really laughable. I recently watched the X documentary showing the total asininity of Stephen Colbert, again. And yet, these people sleep well, I imagine, as did the people who organised and participated in the killing of the children that initiated the eugenicide in Germany.
Thank you for reading, and bringing great comments. The quotation from Latypova is great. And aligns with my observation, as I learned at university, with the War of the World's broadcast in New York - it was the most indoctrinated that panicked and fled a burning city with no signs of smoke or destruction. Like the deadliness of a 'virus' with no real evidence of death!
Thank you again.
If there were a thumbs-up button here, I would be hitting it.
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